Is there any point to different Ele armours? - Guild Wars Forums

Shifty Geezer · Jul 21, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16

All the elementalist armours I've seen so far are identical in stats except in the type of elemental resistance. I'm wondering what's the point in getting Aeromancer armour when there's more Fire damage heading my way at present?

Is that really the only difference, whereas other occupations get different attributes and better AL?

ZD_kusanagi · Jul 21, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

are you talking about pvp or pve?.. because in pve.. it really doesnt matter what armor you wear.. it's easy enough anyway. But in pvp, it matters alot. you need to be equipped against the "flavor of the month" damage makers.

Aracos79 · Jul 21, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

But even for PvP, isn't Aeromancer really the only choice? Air magic is easily the most popular choice for elementalists. Armor choices in this game really are too simplistic. I think ANet needs to implement some new armor variations... but that's an item for another thread.

Weezer_Blue · Jul 22, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53

In PvE, you won't notice it as much. But in PvP, I suggest equipping yourself in Aeromancer armour as to have a bit more defense against those annoying Air Spike builds which seem to be so common. For PvE, it depends where you are. Mostly fire damage, except the Shiverpeaks and the Crystal Desert.

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I think there should be a higher AL for the Fissure armors and the ascention armors, otherwise theres no point in getting them

Jwh6913 · Jul 22, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20

I like the looks

I use the geomancer chest, pyro gloves, hydro leggings, aero boots looks neat, especially in all purple

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 01:22 AM // 01:22

but theres no insentive to having them.

Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it.

If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL?

Ollj · Jul 22, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29

yes yes get aero armor to make it easier for winter spirits !

KvanCetre · Jul 22, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

but theres no insentive to having them.

Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it.

If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL?

No, not really. It keeps the game balanced.

Lets go with elementalist for this:

The person using the PvP armor has 60, the person who is at droknar has 60. Its fair for both PvE and PvP to go to PvP, as their armor is equal. Someone who pays the extra cash(which isnt THAT hard to get) shouldn't suddenly be stronger than everyone else in PvP.

If you want to look different and prove you've played a lot, shell out the cash. I bought the 15k armor because it looked cooler. I even dyed it all black. If I pay that much for dye, I don't expect more armor

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05

i think thats dumb

If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor.

Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more

Rieselle · Jul 22, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08

I've been trying for a while to make a workable E/W melee character for PvP... I'dve liked it if there was some real tradeoffs available in armor for all characters. For my character, as an example, I would have liked to be able to choose a set that provided higher AL (perhaps just vs. physical), or damage reduction, at the cost of something else. Max Energy, a weakness to something (eg. Mesmer/Necro/Smiting damage) etc.

Currently in Elem armour and some other armours for some other classes, the differences are so minor there's very little to think about when choosing between sets. (In fact, for elem, I mix and match to get the most visually pleasing outfit - the powers are almost irrelevant for me atm.)

TheGreatBoo · Jul 22, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

i think thats dumb

If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor.

Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more

This game was built on the foundation that it would be balanced for both pve and pvp there bud. If you spend an extra 3 hours and blow 200k to get cooler looking armor, thats your own problem. It's based on skill, not time and money. A pve player shouldn't be able to stomp a pvper simply because he shelled out an extra 200k.

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

no i understand that, no one said stomp out. Armor doesnt kill anything quicker.

It would just take longer to kill you, thats all

Sagius Truthbarron · Jul 22, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

It even depends on the type of PvP you are doing, in my opinion.

I like to match up my elemental armor for PvE, one Anti-Eart, one Anti-Fire, one Anti-Air and one Anti-Water.

In 4vs4 I would suggest Fire and Air resistance at the moment, being that they are the prefered ele classes at the moment.

In the HoH/ToPK you might want to bring those two and and maybe even anti-earth to combat against KD warriors. That's my observance, anyway.

But in my opinion, the Hydromancer's coat is the best looking

BTW: Many make the mistake of getting armor specific to their used attribute. This is a big mistake, it's like naming your healing monk "Healing Healer [Please kill me first]": it's painting a bull's eye on your head.

Naturally people will go after the areomancer before the hydromancer.

hydrak · Jul 22, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.

Weezer_Blue · Jul 22, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

I think there should be a higher AL for the Fissure armors and the ascention armors, otherwise theres no point in getting them

yeah... that would be *great* for balance.

/sarcasm

if you did that, you'd have to seperate PvE and PvP entirely, to avoid complete imbalance, and then you might as well add UAS and UAR.

... hey... that sounds like a good idea...

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

why is that such a bad idea, theres nothin wrong with a version of pvp with imbalance

Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy

Black Raine · Jul 22, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

15k armors were made to *BE* gold sinks.

Do you need to know anymore...?

generik · Jul 22, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrak

Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.

Yeah.. effective in the sense that you die so quick each round you stop playing the trash called PvP and come back to PvE

Unless you spammed plenty of spirits.. or use some other secrets, heck, I don't know

TheGreatBoo · Jul 22, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

why is that such a bad idea, theres nothin wrong with a version of pvp with imbalance

Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy

If you don't know whats wrong with that statement, you need to grow up and choose a new game. It's the exact same thing as hacking or cheating. If you can't win a balanced fight, then I'm wondering why you're interested in pvp anyway. And as for making other people happy, you couldn't be further off. All it would please is the people who lack the skill to win a fight fairly and don't have the dedication or ability to strategise, form a good build, or counter opposing builds.

Jul 21, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16	#1
Shifty Geezer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Luckless Marauders [OOPS] Profession: E/Mo	Is there any point to different Ele armours? All the elementalist armours I've seen so far are identical in stats except in the type of elemental resistance. I'm wondering what's the point in getting Aeromancer armour when there's more Fire damage heading my way at present? Is that really the only difference, whereas other occupations get different attributes and better AL?

Jul 22, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53	#4
Weezer_Blue Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just a Box in a Cage Guild: Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]	In PvE, you won't notice it as much. But in PvP, I suggest equipping yourself in Aeromancer armour as to have a bit more defense against those annoying Air Spike builds which seem to be so common. For PvE, it depends where you are. Mostly fire damage, except the Shiverpeaks and the Crystal Desert. __________________

Jul 22, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13	#14
Sagius Truthbarron Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Animal Factory [ZoO] Profession: A/	It even depends on the type of PvP you are doing, in my opinion. I like to match up my elemental armor for PvE, one Anti-Eart, one Anti-Fire, one Anti-Air and one Anti-Water. In 4vs4 I would suggest Fire and Air resistance at the moment, being that they are the prefered ele classes at the moment. In the HoH/ToPK you might want to bring those two and and maybe even anti-earth to combat against KD warriors. That's my observance, anyway. But in my opinion, the Hydromancer's coat is the best looking BTW: Many make the mistake of getting armor specific to their used attribute. This is a big mistake, it's like naming your healing monk "Healing Healer [Please kill me first]": it's painting a bull's eye on your head. Naturally people will go after the areomancer before the hydromancer. Last edited by Sagius Truthbarron; Jul 22, 2005 at 02:27 AM // 02:27..

Jul 21, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19	#2
ZD_kusanagi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SLC Guild: The Naked Dragon Profession: Mo/Me	are you talking about pvp or pve?.. because in pve.. it really doesnt matter what armor you wear.. it's easy enough anyway. But in pvp, it matters alot. you need to be equipped against the "flavor of the month" damage makers.

Jul 21, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36	#3
Aracos79 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Great Southwest Guild: Shadowstorm Mercenaries Profession: E/	But even for PvP, isn't Aeromancer really the only choice? Air magic is easily the most popular choice for elementalists. Armor choices in this game really are too simplistic. I think ANet needs to implement some new armor variations... but that's an item for another thread.

Jul 22, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#5
Nizzim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Woot Loops Profession: E/N	I think there should be a higher AL for the Fissure armors and the ascention armors, otherwise theres no point in getting them

Jul 22, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#6
Jwh6913 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Death Infernal Evil Profession: Mo/R	I like the looks I use the geomancer chest, pyro gloves, hydro leggings, aero boots looks neat, especially in all purple

Jul 22, 2005, 01:22 AM // 01:22	#7
Nizzim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Woot Loops Profession: E/N	but theres no insentive to having them. Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it. If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL?

Jul 22, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#8
Ollj Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	yes yes get aero armor to make it easier for winter spirits !

Jul 22, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#10
Nizzim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Woot Loops Profession: E/N	i think thats dumb If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor. Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more

Jul 22, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08	#11
Rieselle Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Profession: E/Rt	I've been trying for a while to make a workable E/W melee character for PvP... I'dve liked it if there was some real tradeoffs available in armor for all characters. For my character, as an example, I would have liked to be able to choose a set that provided higher AL (perhaps just vs. physical), or damage reduction, at the cost of something else. Max Energy, a weakness to something (eg. Mesmer/Necro/Smiting damage) etc. Currently in Elem armour and some other armours for some other classes, the differences are so minor there's very little to think about when choosing between sets. (In fact, for elem, I mix and match to get the most visually pleasing outfit - the powers are almost irrelevant for me atm.)

Jul 22, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#15
hydrak Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.

Jul 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#17
Nizzim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Woot Loops Profession: E/N	why is that such a bad idea, theres nothin wrong with a version of pvp with imbalance Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy

Jul 22, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00	#18
Black Raine Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	15k armors were made to BE gold sinks. Do you need to know anymore...?